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here is a story about a mother who misses her son hope someone can help with this... From a very desperate mother. (Me) I will try to explain briefly what happened okay, I have to say honestly it is a bit difficult but I will do my best. I had a relationship with a man from Belgium and we had a son on 25-8-2003. That whole relationship was a mess because I had to find out too late that he was still married and so he could not recognize my son and shortly after the birth we broke up because his hands were also quite loose. I took care of my child alone but then he came back and thought he had changed because he was very attentive and sweet to both Milan and me and he asked me if he could recognize my son but everyone warned me not to do that and not to trust it but I always said: He is the father of my child and I have no right to stop him? so I arranged for him to acknowledge my son and he lived in Belgium and I lived in the Netherlands and when it was finally time and he had acknowledged my son and it bore his name all the misery started and arguments followed and he said to me straight to my face hahaha now I have just as many rights as you and you can't do anything to me anymore my son suffered greatly from that fight and screamed it out when he had to go to Belgium with his father and no matter how I talked nothing helped and then I called the family doctor and he eventually also gave the advice not to give my son away anymore because it was not good for the child at all but then it was arguments after arguments and I still have 4 children from my first marriage and they also suffered greatly from it. I then took care of my child for 5.5 years and tried to protect him as much as possible from everything. I often told his father that he should not argue and that it certainly did not benefit my children. So the years passed and my son was an affectionate sweet child who did not leave my side. He often told me mom I don't have to go to dad anymore but then I said yes dear you have to mom I can't do anything about that. My son really wanted to play football with his friends and I thought that was fine and arranged it for him and he enjoyed it until his father started again and didn't agree with my son playing football so he had to skip football once every two weeks and the trainer didn't agree with that and said that his father was also welcome so I promised to talk to my son about it but he didn't agree and said that his girlfriend didn't want that and then I went to a lawyer for the first time to see if he could maybe approach his father and please ask him that my son could go to football and he gave us good courage and talked to my son himself and we went home cheerfully. But then I got a phone call from the secretary of that lawyer and she told me that I would be better off talking to his father myself and finding a solution together and I said no, that's not possible because I can't talk to that man and then she said yes, but look, when 2 parents keep fighting over a child, the judge will probably call in the child protection council and then you're even further from home and I was shocked (and I don't know why yet) but then I tried to find a solution myself but unfortunately my son could only go play football once every 2 weeks, which meant that his friends didn't choose him for their group as quickly anymore, which was painful for both him and me. In the meantime I had also met someone and he and my son were good friends but on March 2, 2009 that came to an end because my brother had really been stirring up trouble in our relationship (which I didn't know at the time) and I had a hernia in 4 places and had medication for it and I was walking around in a lot of pain and then that friend came and said our relationship was over (now my husband) I was so shocked and I didn't understand it and I got so upset that I had taken too many of my tablets (and that day I can't forgive myself anymore) but my son wasn't there and I was taken to the hospital and strange that my brother knew about it and that he had immediately called my son's father to come and get my son while he knew that that was never allowed no matter what because my son has big sisters and a brother. But anyway my son was taken and the next day my brother came to get me from the hospital and I had to go with him, while I shook my head at the doctor but I had to be happy with a brother like that, right? when I got there I got the first blows from my brother and his girlfriend and they cursed me and had to do the work and take care of her children. I didn't hear my mother and other children anymore, only my oldest daughter. I wasn't allowed to go outside I wasn't allowed to do anything anymore and then my son's father and girlfriend and 2 ladies from child protection came and the six of them were busy with me but I was still so stupid and felt so miserable that I didn't even realize what was going on and I had to understand that it was a good solution for my son to be with his father temporarily and they made me sign papers and I had to give my son his NL passport and his CZ card and those women didn't even look at those papers while the police had once said to me never to give my son his passport but I had to and they said I shouldn't worry and as soon as I felt better my son would come back. I went through a lot and called social services and they came and I wanted to speak to that lady alone but my brother and his girlfriend wouldn't let me and I tried to ask for help but she didn't realize it and she left again. and then I called someone from a mental health center and then my brother and girlfriend had to let me go. I had a conversation and he told me that I should just go to my own house and that everything would be fine and that I certainly hadn't committed a mortal sin and that no one had lost their child because of this incident but they didn't let me go and I got beaten up again and then my girlfriend called and I was allowed to come to her for a weekend because she wanted to help me and they had to let me go and my husband also came there and then it turned out that it was all one conspiracy and then I was suddenly thrown out of the house there and threatened and then I went to the police. My brother had a key to my house and had taken everything out. The police went there and they had seen all my things but were cursed at themselves and that officer told me to go into hiding etc etc because they were very aggressive. I didn't get to see my son again and I immediately went to a lawyer but he didn't do more than write a letter to my son's father and nothing more. On May 10th I got to see my son for the first time again and that was in a playground in Belgium and there were his father and that friend with her children and I wasn't allowed to be alone with my son and my son put his head on my chest and said mom I want to go with you but they wouldn't let me and my son had such a hard time but he wasn't even 6 years old and then he went to play again and I never forced my children to sit with me and when they play they play and if they want to sit with me then I'm happy to and I hug them but in a playground where all the children play! That was on May 10th and then I didn't get to see my son again and the first time was in June in Bobbejaanland where his father brought him and came back to pick him up at 5:00 PM and my son screamed again and cried with grief. In the meantime his father had been to the Belgian court but I didn't know anything about that and he had stated there that he didn't know where I was and where I lived and that I didn't let him hear from me anymore and he had just been assigned my son and I didn't know anything about that but the crazy thing was that I suddenly got my son every 14 days and a week during the summer holidays and I was already so happy that I saw my child again and every time my son said, mom you have to promise me that you will fight for me and I promised that too and I often told his father that I wanted my son back and my son wanted that too but he didn't listen to that and then said you do what I tell you or you won't get your son anymore and I was so scared that I listened. On September 25, 2009 my husband and I got married and I asked if I could have the number of my son's school and that I wanted to know how he was doing and that I wanted to ask if my son could be at our wedding but I didn't get that and he would arrange that and I didn't know the name and nothing about that school but my son was there and enjoyed himself immensely. Then my husband was offered a job through his company in Tessenderlo and we were so happy with that because then we would be closer to my son and I immediately passed that on to his father and we found a nice apartment in Hasselt so not far from Lommel where my son was staying with his father's girlfriend. Then I suddenly got to see a pass from Belgium and I asked where my son's NL pass was but they didn't have it anymore he said and he was now Belgian and I said that's not possible he has a NL pass. I didn't understand. But anyway I had given everything neatly address telephone number everything and went to pick up my son once every 14 days and then our car was completely destroyed and we had to report it to the police and I thought I would ask right away if it is possible that my son has a Belgian passport and the officer said we will check that and what I heard then was that my son belonged to me and the officer said I don't know what lies that man told you but you must not bring your son back and you keep him with you and I asked three times if he was sure and yes he was and I cried with happiness and I went to my son and told him that he did not have to come back and he also cried and flew around my neck and his big sister and my son and I danced to the music of K3 and how happy we were and I had to put my son's bed next to ours and now everything was going to be fine and I told my son that I had to call his father and he threatened and told me if I did not bring my son back I would not live much longer and me I had cut my own paws now and I said no I haven't and I'm keeping my son with me now... Well Milan was back and a day later there were 2 officers at the door and they came to get my son back so I said no you are not getting my child and why should I (strange that they knew my address) Then that one officer told me that there had been a trial and that there was a verdict that my son had been awarded to his father! I said no that is not right and I do not know of any verdict and will not give my child away. My son started to cry and my daughter who was with me had just given birth 5 weeks ago and she was also upset by what we had heard but I was determined not to give my son away and she told me that that was another excuse. They went and said they would look into it but the fear was there again. Then they called me to come and I went and there I was confronted with that verdict and I had not known anything all that time and I could give them evidence and all the text messages that had been sent to each other and that my son was with me every 14 days and also during the holidays while he had stated that he did not know where I was and no longer had contact with my son. But because of that verdict I had to give up my son and I called my husband and I went back together with those officers, as soon as I came in and my son saw those women he panicked and quickly went to sit with his sister and when they wanted to take him away my son started screaming so much and he ran into my arms and wrapped his legs around my body and those officers tried to pull him away and put on his shoes until they realized that it was no use and then they called someone from the court and they said that I should not give my son away and wished us a nice evening but my son was scared and would not leave my side anymore. The next morning I was called again and had to be at the office with my son within half an hour and I said no my child is still asleep but I didn't want anything and had to get my son out of his bed and while we were walking there I told my son that I was scared but that he had to listen to those women and he said mom I'll hold your hand and never let it go and the little man walked with me while I knew how scared he must have been. When I got there I had to go with him and he had to go with 3 other officers and my son said no I'll stay with my mom and dad is naughty but those officers said nothing will happen son and you we have to talk to your mom and you can go back soon. I didn't see my son again and they gave him to his father. They told me to go to a lawyer and that his whole story was not true but that they couldn't do anything while I had so much evidence. They let me go and to this day I still don't know how I got home and I was walking in tears and was completely upset and felt amputated. Well then the suffering started and I had to take a lawyer who wanted 500 euros to be right because otherwise she couldn't do anything!! She then started summary proceedings in Hasselt and I told her that I did not agree with the lawsuit that he had started. We then had to appear in Hasselt and he made many demands but I won the case and got my son back every 2 weeks but for the rest they couldn't do anything and had to appeal. The judge asked me where I was on the day of the verdict but I could only say that I didn't know anything and that I had my son with me that day while he did that and had proof of it. For my son this was all very sad and told me that he wasn't allowed to say anything about me at home or he would be punished and that girlfriend of his father kept saying to my little boy that his mother was very naughty and that she was now his mother and he had to say that to her but my son didn't want that and then said mom. you are my mommy and I only have one mommy, right? To which I then said yes, darling, you only have one mommy and I love you very much. My little boy suffered, that was painful for me. I then wrote to the Belgian politicians and got a letter back and I had to have confidence, but I heard nothing back from the Dutch politicians and the Dutch lawyers could do nothing for me. His father and girlfriend did all sorts of things and had also told my son that her children were now his sister and brothers. My son's father also has 2 children and his oldest son doesn't go there anymore and his daughter doesn't want to anymore and has a lot of problems. Then there was a break-in at our house and everything of my son was gone, his gold bracelet everything and my laptop with all the evidence and the police made the connection to his father but I also told them that I wasn't going to point my finger without evidence. My son's Nintendo was also gone and I had to tell him because he was so careful with his stuff. We went to pick him up from football and his girlfriend's daughter wanted to drive away quickly with my son but my husband had quickly parked his car in front of it and got out and my son said mom, she's naughty she wanted to drive away quickly with me but I reassured him and said that everything was fine now!! Then I told him that naughty people had been with us and that they had stolen a lot of things including his Nintendo and what he said then .... mom I know that because your laptop is also gone and I said but son how could you know that and he said mom dad has it and I said that's not possible son but he kept insisting and we recorded those conversations and went to the police. They were going to go there but they hadn't found anything to which my son then said yes they put everything in the basement and dad gave the laptop to friends but he was very happy with it because there were things on it (photos) evidence everything. My son became a closed boy and clung to me when he was with me and often said mom you will keep fighting for me and I promised him that. Then he suddenly had to do his communion and he said mom they don't want you there and his father's girlfriend had said I don't need her there with her dirty greasy head. I was so sad but didn't want to show that to my son and said son I will think of you and love you and he said I love you too mom and he put his hand on his heart and said mom here you are. Then the months of great misery passed by and I had gone to child protection in Belgium, the youth police and they all agreed with me but I could do nothing but wait for the appeal. The lawyer cost us a lot of money and because of all the situations my husband had problems at work because he had to pick up my son at times when he had to work and I can't drive a car and I kept saying that too but they didn't listen. The Dutch judge had stated in the verdict that he was responsible for picking up and returning but that suddenly didn't count anymore. In the meantime we had already paid 2000 euros to the lawyer but I didn't get an official bill, just a loose piece of paper. In the meantime I had also looked for a lawyer in the Netherlands and he said that the whole thing stunk but that she couldn't do much. My husband lost his job and there we were. His father and girlfriend kept looking and said that I was mentally disturbed etc etc which was also difficult for my other children. We went back to the Netherlands in the hope that they could do more for me but my husband couldn't find a job and is from Austria and speaks broken Dutch and we weren't entitled to benefits and my children helped us financially. Then luckily my husband found work again but it was for an Austrian company and was in Rotterdam but he drove back and forth from Terneuzen to Rotterdam every day. Then finally the day of the appeal arrived and I was nervous and had contact with the Dutch child protection services, youth care police, everything but I had to have trust and so we left together for Antwerp (me and my husband and the children) they had also made statements that I no longer had contact with my other kids and that they also wanted nothing to do with me and my kids said mom we will show the judge otherwise. He and his girlfriend were shocked that we were all there and we were allowed in and then they said that they did not want everyone to be there while she also had her daughter with her. I told the judge that they were my children but they were not allowed in. His lawyer was very mean and everyone said that she must hate me very much because even my lawyer had never seen her like this. I was nervous but remained calm and waited and there I was told that the Belgian judge had not even been authorized to make a ruling and that there was already a Dutch verdict and we were sent away with the words within 2 weeks or so a verdict and I was not heard. On October 11th the verdict came and that was on my birthday and my lawyer was jubilant because I had won the case and God was I happy and she told me that I had to pick up my son that evening (it was Friday) and not to say anything and to take him with me because his lawyer had not yet been informed etc. I was nervous and called my husband and he came straight away and we went to pick up my son and in the car I told my son that we had won and he said mommy don't I have to go back? I said no boy you don't have to go back and he was so happy again and beamed. He kept asking me and I said son you can now go back to school in Terneuzen and then he calmed down a bit and I had contact with my Dutch lawyer and she said that we should now immediately start summary proceedings in the Netherlands to temporarily remove his visitation rights because there was great fear that he would kidnap my son and that substitute permission had to be requested from the judge to extend my son's Dutch passport and permission for mental health care because my son had changed and I wanted my son to be able to talk about it and called child protection etc. and that man from child protection said you shouldn't be afraid and I am also present at the summary proceedings in Middelburg. Still I was afraid and said that I never wanted to lose my child again but according to everyone I shouldn't be afraid and it was only about formal matters now. We had to appear in court on December 9 and my son was doing well and was having a great time at school and was finally starting to feel a little bit like himself again. To my horror the judge suddenly said that he didn't know whether the Netherlands had jurisdiction while they had declared everything null and void in Antwerp! and let his father speak and he acted so pathetic and said to the judge, I haven't seen my son for 6 weeks and blah blah and I couldn't say anything and then the judge said to me it suited you well, didn't it, that the appeal had declared everything null and void and I was stunned and couldn't say much. My children didn't come this time and just went to work because they had also been refused in Belgium but that friend and her daughter were there again and wanted to come in and I said I didn't want that because they didn't want that last time either but the judge didn't know that and thought I was being unreasonable in that! We would then get the verdict at the end of the afternoon but I had not even spoken and neither had the child protection. But I heard nothing and called my lawyer myself but he was no longer in the office and the next day I took my son to school and I had the babysitter for my granddaughter and then I got a call from my Dutch lawyer and I was convicted and had to give up my child within 24 hours and if I did not do that then with the strong arm. I had to tell my son and I have never seen my child scream like that and he asked me if we could hide but I was also at my wits' end and didn't know what to do and asked if my son could at least say goodbye to his sisters and brother but no they came to pick him up that same day at 4 o'clock and I called child protection but that man didn't understand it either and only said how is that possible and my lawyer reacted the same way but nobody did anything and I had to let my child go. it was the last day that we saw or heard from my son and he stops all contact and I have written everywhere but I do not hear anything back and my Belgian lawyer will not do anything for me until I have paid her 4000 euros but we have no money left and cannot pay that and have nothing left and have asked for help from the municipality but I should perhaps better leave for my husband's country and I said why then I still have children here and I am a grandmother and there is a 2nd grandchild on the way and that was told to me by a Turkish employee at the municipality. I keep writing to everyone but everyone thinks it is bad but cannot or do not know what to do and I did receive a letter back from child protection that I should write to Belgian child protection and perhaps the abasade well I have written to everyone including politicians Geert Wilders among others I am sick with grief and I text and write my child but get nothing back I am now facing another operation on my uterus, I don't know what to do anymore and my children are all devastated with grief I continue for my children but inside I don't want to anymore I miss my son and have so much evidence in my hands but I can't afford it anymore and I'm done yes that man from child protection wrote to us, too bad you can no longer afford a lawyer in Belgium etc. that hurts and this was maybe only a quarter of my story but I don't know what to do anymore and how much pain my son has and what is he thinking now... he must miss his mom We haven't seen or heard from each other for half a year now what does that do to him................. I can't anymore and I'll stop typing now because I can't look straight out of my eyes anymore, sorry (written in May 2011) It is now January 2012 and I have not heard from or seen my little boy. I write him and text him but no response. His sisters and brother have not seen my son either. I have sent I don't know how many emails to politicians but no response (not even a small answer, nothing). I have written to TV personalities but nothing back from there either. I received one text message on my birthday and that was on October 11 (Hi mom, I wish you a happy birthday) that's all. I wrote to P vd B that I would make it public and this is the answer I got back: if you think you can achieve something with that, you should do it! Still no one understands anything but there is no one to help us I don't want to hurt my son so I keep a low profile towards him but inside I'm dying a little more and more every day ............. Today March 6, 2012 Again we consulted a lawyer to see if he could help us fight for my son and he wanted to see the papers and hooray he could help us and he would write letters to Belgium and Milan's school etc. and nothing was to be done without my permission because I am also his mother for 50%!!!!! (as he said) Then suddenly we received an email on February 28 that he could not do anything and we should look for a lawyer in Belgium but we could not afford this even though we wanted it so much. Now today there is a letter in the mailbox from that lawyer asking if we could just pay 534.17 within 14 days pff Fee 427.50 Office costs 5% 21.38 and 19% VAT 85.29. while we said that we could not even pay those Belgians ... I do not understand it anymore and then I say NO MORE again so many costs and not even one step further. no Milan nothing and I could see him again right LIES LIES AND MORE LIES and only to make myself better right but they don't understand a mother's grief and my husband sent a text message to my son's father (without my knowledge) asking if I could please hear my son because I was sick, he begged but no no response back nothing at all.... it all hurts so much, and everything has a reason right and I have to let things go and blah blah but how on earth can I stay positive... WHO OH WHO CAN HELP US, I'm starting to beg now if there is someone who wants to listen and HELP.... PLEASE IS THERE NO ONE WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO ME? I CAN'T DO ANYTHING MORE THAN ADMIT THAT I MADE 1 MISTAKE BUT I'M NOT A CRIMINAL OR JUNK OR WHATEVER, AM I? Dear son Wednesday 2 May 2012 Went to the Legal Desk in Terneuzen - wait and see but have no expectations anymore and am now waiting to see if there are still honest people.. She heard your little voice dear son, so much despair and sobs that you wanted to stay with mom.. She didn't understand all this misery and well again that it was all a set up and dirty play by your father and his girlfriend together with my so-called 'brother' and his girlfriend but no one is allowed to know that because of benefits) the one that the other children don't want to come home from anymore and the other who is showering with his 'stepdaughter' of 15 and had a bed next to him and her mother so she could watch how they did it!! but that is allowed by Youth Care no that is not a problem right??? bah bah In the meantime I have written to many, received an email back from Child Protection PvdB got some lame answer that they had already given a lot of advice pff of course but not really and that well again Belgium/Netherlands makes the situation even more difficult!!! The lady from the Legal Desk lit up her eyes and said oh yes YOUTH CARE pff .. It will be okay dear Milan your mother does not give up and keeps hoping just like your sisters and brother, your oldest sister cried so much on Monday for you darling she misses you so much, your other sister who thinks of you so much and is torn apart by grief... Aren't they children then YOUTH CARE? CHILD PROTECTION? GOVERNMENT? etc.... every day we send you much love and Light from our hearts darling and not only you, also your father and his girlfriend and everything that is involved because they will need it.

Lawyer

This description raises several questions before a definitive answer is possible. is it correct that the son now lives in Belgium with his father and that father has custody? if so, then I assume that the Belgian judge is intended. After all, it is not a matter of child abduction. If so, what is the point of requesting information from the Terneuzen legal aid office? Is the Middelburg Youth Care Office authorised and if so, on what basis? What steps has Bureau Jeugdzorg Middelburg taken? (I am a lawyer in Middelburg myself and have had good experiences with Bureau Jeugdzorg Zeeland; at least it is easy to communicate with them); If so, I assume that the Middelburg Child Protection Council is also involved? What is your current place of residence/stay? (the answer may be relevant to the jurisdiction of the court;

Lawyer

If I were you, I would immediately contact a lawyer who specializes in youth care.

Lawyer

You asked me if André Overbeek would contact you. I see here that he advises you to contact a specialized lawyer. Unfortunately, I cannot help you any further and do not have an e-mail address for Mr. Overbeek, who, to my knowledge, is not a specialized lawyer in this area. The best thing you can do is go to a large law firm where someone will help you. You can report the criminal offences.

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is it possible that you can somehow contact the mother where the story: story of a desperate mother, is located regarding all the questions you asked. This woman is in despair, has uterine cancer and is devastated by the loss of her son. Maybe I'm asking too much here, but she's running into all the doors that are closing, including courts of justice in Belgium and the Netherlands that are making different rulings! she lives in Terneuzen and her son in Lommel, Belgium. We, her friends, try to support her in everything and find an opening somewhere, but... either they find this too complicated, or they don't dare, but we don't know where to go and see how she and her family are completely destroyed by this. I hope with everything we have in us that you will find an entrance somewhere for this more than poignant event. if you would like to have information, we would be happy to provide you with private information, but I do not know how to place this privately with you? We would be happy to hear from you and would be extremely grateful, also on behalf of this loving mother! With the highest respect, we remain with kind regards,.

Lawyer

I already had the idea that Youth Care Middelburg plays a role in this problem, so I also concluded that the lady apparently lives in the province of Zeeland. I had asked a few questions about the jurisdiction of the Dutch and/or Belgian judge. Of course I am certainly prepared to speak to the lady. I always put a lot of energy into an exploratory conversation and that free of charge. You can make an appointment. If it is difficult during the week, that can also be done on Saturday. But, of course, the most important thing is to know